WEBVTT 00:00:25.091 --> 00:00:27.593 I have a question. 00:00:27.594 --> 00:00:32.598 If you know someone, someone close to you, 00:00:32.599 --> 00:00:34.600 And you put together all the pieces, 00:00:34.601 --> 00:00:37.603 All the laughter and the tears, 00:00:37.604 --> 00:00:39.104 And the silences... 00:00:39.105 --> 00:00:43.109 All the deep, telling moments of their life... 00:00:44.611 --> 00:00:46.613 Then... 00:00:47.113 --> 00:00:50.115 well, then you can inhabit them and feel part of them. 00:00:50.116 --> 00:00:51.116 Hi, dad. 00:00:51.117 --> 00:00:52.619 Hey. 00:00:54.621 --> 00:00:57.623 But if you've known someone... 00:00:57.624 --> 00:01:01.126 with a soul so dark... 00:01:01.127 --> 00:01:03.630 so terrifying... 00:01:05.131 --> 00:01:07.132 and you've crawled into every foul corner. 00:01:07.133 --> 00:01:09.636 That they think they've hidden from you... 00:01:11.638 --> 00:01:14.641 and you've inhabited them... 00:01:25.151 --> 00:01:28.154 How do you... How do you come back? 00:01:31.157 --> 00:01:33.660 Can you return to how you used to be? 00:01:40.166 --> 00:01:43.169 Dad, you missed it. No hands! 00:02:04.691 --> 00:02:07.192 ♪ Love is a weapon ♪ 00:02:07.193 --> 00:02:10.196 ♪ It can cut you to the bone ♪ 00:02:12.198 --> 00:02:16.703 ♪ Love makes you bleed ♪ ♪ but love makes you strong ♪ 00:02:19.205 --> 00:02:22.208 ♪ Love's never perfect ♪ 00:02:25.712 --> 00:02:27.713 yeah, we were second car. 00:02:27.714 --> 00:02:29.715 What do we got, lieutenant? 00:02:29.716 --> 00:02:32.718 Reichert, anybody ever tell you you have lousy taste in music? 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:34.720 Yes, sir, you did. What'd I say I was gonna do. 00:02:34.721 --> 00:02:37.222 If I caught you with a radio in a county car again? 00:02:37.223 --> 00:02:39.224 You said you break it into a thousand pieces 00:02:39.225 --> 00:02:41.227 and plant my young butt in the property room. 00:02:41.728 --> 00:02:43.729 But that's not my radio. That's my wife's. 00:02:43.730 --> 00:02:46.231 She gave it to me to get fixed because it only gets one station. 00:02:46.232 --> 00:02:48.233 Which is why it was in that car. 00:02:48.234 --> 00:02:52.237 And why I was listening to that particular song instead of Opera, sir. 00:02:52.238 --> 00:02:54.740 You're full of it, Reichert. Yes, sir. 00:02:54.741 --> 00:02:57.243 Lieutenant! Better have a look. 00:02:59.245 --> 00:03:01.747 You ever walk point on a case yet, Reichert? 00:03:01.748 --> 00:03:03.749 No, sir, not yet. 00:03:03.750 --> 00:03:05.251 Well, that just changed. 00:03:05.752 --> 00:03:07.753 Sir? Lieutenant Downing? 00:03:07.754 --> 00:03:11.257 You're lead, detective. Better go see what they want. 00:03:13.259 --> 00:03:14.260 Yes, sir. 00:03:23.269 --> 00:03:25.771 I'm Reichert. I caught lead on this. What do we got? 00:03:25.772 --> 00:03:27.272 Another body! 00:03:27.273 --> 00:03:29.776 Look, I'm new, okay, but I'm not that... 00:03:30.276 --> 00:03:31.777 Weighted down with rocks. Big suckers. 00:03:31.778 --> 00:03:33.780 Probably go 40 pounds each. 00:03:36.282 --> 00:03:38.784 Bring her up on shore and then scour the bottom. 00:03:38.785 --> 00:03:40.285 Bring me anything that's down there. 00:03:40.286 --> 00:03:43.790 I don't care if it's a dead guppy, I want to see it. 00:03:47.794 --> 00:03:49.295 Be careful. 00:03:56.302 --> 00:03:58.304 Okay. All right. 00:04:08.815 --> 00:04:10.316 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:04:12.819 --> 00:04:15.822 Oh, Jesus Mary mother of god. 00:04:26.332 --> 00:04:30.837 You can't depend on M.O. to link up a serial killer's murders. 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.340 'Cause they read the paper, they watch TV. 00:04:35.341 --> 00:04:38.844 They'll even study other serials to learn all they can to avoid capture. 00:04:38.845 --> 00:04:41.847 Then they'll change their M.O. based on what they've learned. 00:04:41.848 --> 00:04:45.350 So if you wanna catch a serial killer, forget about his M.O. 00:04:45.351 --> 00:04:47.352 And focus on his signature. 00:04:47.353 --> 00:04:50.857 'Cause the signature is the on thing that will not change 00:04:51.357 --> 00:04:53.359 because he has to leave his personal calling card. 00:04:55.361 --> 00:04:57.863 A serial killer is psychologically compelled 00:04:57.864 --> 00:05:00.366 to leave his imprint on the victim. 00:05:01.868 --> 00:05:02.868 Jessica Standish. 00:05:02.869 --> 00:05:05.370 The killer murders her in his truck, 00:05:05.371 --> 00:05:08.374 Then he drags her body out into the alley, 00:05:08.875 --> 00:05:12.377 he sweeps the area clean, and he poses her. 00:05:12.378 --> 00:05:16.883 So, that's some sort of biblical thing, right? With the fish and the wine? 00:05:17.383 --> 00:05:19.885 Sure, it could be biblical. That's a tempting place to start. 00:05:19.886 --> 00:05:23.889 Uh, but if your instincts run to something a little less sophisticated, 00:05:23.890 --> 00:05:26.392 I wouldn't ignore that either. 00:05:28.394 --> 00:05:31.897 The world's most notorious serial killer is now on death row in Florida 00:05:31.898 --> 00:05:33.900 for the murders of three girls. 00:05:34.400 --> 00:05:36.902 We believe he was also involved in 00:05:36.903 --> 00:05:38.904 at least two dozen other murders 00:05:38.905 --> 00:05:41.406 between 1974 and 1978, 00:05:41.407 --> 00:05:43.409 eight of them here in this State... 00:05:44.911 --> 00:05:49.916 ranging in age from 30... to 12. 00:05:54.420 --> 00:05:57.423 As Ted Bundy says, "whatever gets your rocks off." 00:05:57.924 --> 00:06:02.928 All right, we'll talk about Bundy next week, and, uh, go wash your brains. 00:06:02.929 --> 00:06:05.431 You don't process this stuff, you'll end up in a straitjacket. 00:06:08.434 --> 00:06:10.435 They're all ligature strangulation? 00:06:10.436 --> 00:06:14.439 Yeah. The fresh kills, anyway. Can't tell about these. 00:06:14.440 --> 00:06:15.941 He's been busy. 00:06:15.942 --> 00:06:19.945 Yeah, we're up to 13. Ten since July. 00:06:19.946 --> 00:06:22.447 Hmm. They all working girls? 00:06:22.448 --> 00:06:25.951 We think so. The lab hasn't ID'd them all yet. 00:06:25.952 --> 00:06:27.954 Any of the recent finds fresh? 00:06:28.454 --> 00:06:31.957 No. We found two more in the river after the first three, 00:06:31.958 --> 00:06:33.959 But nothing but bones since then. 00:06:33.960 --> 00:06:35.460 You caught yourself a tough one. 00:06:35.461 --> 00:06:37.963 We're spinning our wheels, Bob. 00:06:37.964 --> 00:06:39.965 And the media's all over us. 00:06:39.966 --> 00:06:41.968 My plate's full, Reichert. 00:06:43.970 --> 00:06:46.972 I got four guys for 13 dead girls. 00:06:46.973 --> 00:06:49.475 They gave you help? 00:07:01.988 --> 00:07:04.489 Guys? 00:07:04.490 --> 00:07:05.991 Guys? Hey! 00:07:05.992 --> 00:07:08.494 Hey. 00:07:08.995 --> 00:07:11.997 Think you could, uh, maybe just keep the doors, uh, 00:07:11.998 --> 00:07:13.498 Closed? Uh-Huh. 00:07:13.499 --> 00:07:16.001 I could hear it all the way from the marina. 00:07:16.002 --> 00:07:18.504 So, uh, just... 00:07:20.006 --> 00:07:23.009 it's a... but it sounds-sounds- It sounds good. Just... 00:07:27.513 --> 00:07:29.515 hi, sweetie. Hi, dad. 00:07:31.017 --> 00:07:32.017 How was rehearsal? 00:07:32.018 --> 00:07:34.019 Good. Yeah? 00:07:34.020 --> 00:07:38.023 You're coming to the performance, right? 00:07:38.024 --> 00:07:40.026 Well, yeah. I'm getting box seats. 00:07:40.526 --> 00:07:42.028 That's why I'm having my tux cleaned. 00:07:42.528 --> 00:07:43.528 As if you have a tux. 00:07:43.529 --> 00:07:45.531 Yeah, as if your studio has box seats. 00:07:46.032 --> 00:07:47.032 Bob? 00:07:47.033 --> 00:07:49.034 Yeah, something smells good. 00:07:49.035 --> 00:07:51.537 Salmon. How'd your day go? 00:07:52.038 --> 00:07:53.039 Oh, not bad. 00:07:56.042 --> 00:08:00.045 You want a beer? No, but your friend might be ready for another coke. 00:08:00.046 --> 00:08:01.547 What friend? 00:08:02.048 --> 00:08:04.550 The one who says he's working on the Green River case. 00:08:11.557 --> 00:08:16.061 Sande, I didn't invite him. I've already told him no. 00:08:16.062 --> 00:08:18.564 Fine. I'll fix him a plate. 00:08:24.570 --> 00:08:26.071 Hey, Dave. Bob. 00:08:26.072 --> 00:08:27.573 Let's take a walk. 00:08:33.579 --> 00:08:35.581 You know what the worst part is? 00:08:37.083 --> 00:08:39.585 The phone? Yeah. 00:08:41.587 --> 00:08:44.090 It rings, and I pray it's not another body. 00:08:46.092 --> 00:08:50.096 Some cop. I'm afraid to pick up the phone. 00:08:51.097 --> 00:08:53.099 These are still missing. 00:08:57.103 --> 00:09:00.105 Downing's talking about folding the task force back into homicide. 00:09:00.106 --> 00:09:03.109 He does that, I'll never catch him. 00:09:05.611 --> 00:09:07.613 He's out there, Bob. 00:09:08.114 --> 00:09:09.114 Hunting. 00:09:09.115 --> 00:09:12.118 And I'm not even close to stopping him. 00:09:42.148 --> 00:09:45.650 Are you any closer to finding somebody? 00:09:45.651 --> 00:09:47.652 Any closer at all? I mean... 00:09:47.653 --> 00:09:49.654 Well, uh... 00:09:49.655 --> 00:09:53.658 We are narrowing the list of suspects every day. 00:09:53.659 --> 00:09:55.161 We're gonna get him. 00:09:56.662 --> 00:09:58.664 I can promise you that. 00:09:59.665 --> 00:10:01.666 We know you're doing your best. 00:10:01.667 --> 00:10:03.668 My daughter was smart. 00:10:03.669 --> 00:10:05.170 She was in college. 00:10:05.171 --> 00:10:07.673 She would never get herself into a situation where she... 00:10:08.174 --> 00:10:09.174 Okay. 00:10:09.175 --> 00:10:10.675 Yeah. 00:10:10.676 --> 00:10:14.179 I want to know where she is so I can... 00:10:14.180 --> 00:10:16.182 So I can bring her home. 00:11:30.756 --> 00:11:32.757 You're not sleeping. 00:11:32.758 --> 00:11:35.261 Hi. No. 00:11:35.761 --> 00:11:38.764 I should cut down to three pots of coffee instead of four, huh? 00:11:40.766 --> 00:11:43.268 Reichert's a victim, too. 00:11:43.269 --> 00:11:45.770 You know? He's just... It's... 00:11:45.771 --> 00:11:49.774 He's getting overwhelmed by it all. It's kind of caving in on him. 00:11:49.775 --> 00:11:52.777 You know, it's... He's near the edge. I can see it. 00:11:52.778 --> 00:11:54.779 I know. I've seen it before. 00:11:54.780 --> 00:11:57.283 Oh, I'll be fine. It's... you know. 00:11:59.785 --> 00:12:02.787 It's not... Sande, it's not even my case. 00:12:02.788 --> 00:12:05.790 I'm just... You know, I'll consult and... 00:12:05.791 --> 00:12:07.792 What? You're... you're gonna... 00:12:07.793 --> 00:12:09.295 Uh... just... yeah. 00:12:09.795 --> 00:12:12.798 Reichert will call, and I'll give an opinion, and... 00:12:14.300 --> 00:12:15.801 done. 00:12:40.826 --> 00:12:42.328 Office too warm, Bob? 00:12:42.828 --> 00:12:44.829 I saw the crowd. I thought it was a bake sale. 00:12:44.830 --> 00:12:47.833 After the 6:00 news, the perp's gonna know everything we know. 00:12:48.334 --> 00:12:50.335 Count on that. What do you got? 00:12:50.336 --> 00:12:53.838 Bones. Female. Two sets, he thinks. 00:12:53.839 --> 00:12:56.341 You find the way the perp dragged the body down the hill? 00:12:56.342 --> 00:12:57.842 I will. 00:12:57.843 --> 00:12:59.844 This is a crime scene. What do you think you're doing? 00:12:59.845 --> 00:13:02.847 Guys? Come on! 00:13:02.848 --> 00:13:06.851 Easy, Reichert. The media's on our backs enough as it is. 00:13:06.852 --> 00:13:10.356 Bob? How you doing? It's been awhile. 00:13:10.856 --> 00:13:12.016 Yeah. I'm doing fine, downing. 00:13:12.358 --> 00:13:14.360 Keppel and I worked major crimes together. 00:13:15.861 --> 00:13:17.363 You two know each other, huh? 00:13:17.863 --> 00:13:20.365 Yeah, I was Reichert's Rabbi when he was a rookie. 00:13:20.366 --> 00:13:23.369 I just got a cold case I need to ask him about, if that's all right. 00:13:23.869 --> 00:13:25.371 Yeah. Sure. 00:13:25.871 --> 00:13:27.873 It's nice seeing you, captain. 00:13:30.376 --> 00:13:32.878 Oh, I see they're finally gonna fry Ted. 00:13:33.379 --> 00:13:34.879 Yeah, I guess so. 00:13:34.880 --> 00:13:35.881 When is that? 00:13:36.382 --> 00:13:38.383 I don't know exactly. 00:13:38.384 --> 00:13:40.886 Uh-Huh. We'll see you, Bob. 00:13:42.388 --> 00:13:45.390 Can you, uh, can you get me those victims' jackets? 00:13:45.391 --> 00:13:49.394 I guess so. I mean, strictly speaking, 00:13:49.395 --> 00:13:51.397 I'm not supposed to... just bring them to my house. 00:13:54.400 --> 00:13:56.901 Police aren't saying whether this latest grisly find. 00:13:56.902 --> 00:13:58.903 Is the work of the Green River killer, 00:13:58.904 --> 00:14:01.144 but there seems little doubt that this gruesome discovery 00:14:01.407 --> 00:14:02.907 will be added to the growing total, 00:14:02.908 --> 00:14:04.909 Bringing the number of victims to 15, 00:14:04.910 --> 00:14:08.413 All of them apparently prostitutes who worked a three-mile stretch. 00:14:08.414 --> 00:14:11.416 Of the pacific highway south known as "The Strip." 00:14:11.417 --> 00:14:15.920 Thank you, Lyn. And here's Vince Conrad with the weather for this weekend. 00:14:15.921 --> 00:14:17.922 They all had those pyramid-type rocks 00:14:17.923 --> 00:14:21.427 found in their vaginal canals, except for Mills. 00:14:21.927 --> 00:14:24.930 They all found in the water? Not all of them. 00:14:28.934 --> 00:14:30.436 This is where I found mills. 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:56.462 Bob? 00:15:02.968 --> 00:15:04.970 So, he brings Chapman here. 00:15:07.473 --> 00:15:08.974 Then Hinds. 00:15:11.477 --> 00:15:13.479 And then Mills, but something happens. 00:15:17.483 --> 00:15:20.486 He doesn't put Mills in the water. He doesn't shove a rock into her. 00:15:26.492 --> 00:15:29.494 The bridge. Maybe someone was on it. 00:15:29.495 --> 00:15:31.497 He panicked and dropped her. 00:15:49.014 --> 00:15:50.515 Keppel, huh? 00:15:50.516 --> 00:15:52.016 Just a suggestion, sir. 00:15:52.017 --> 00:15:54.018 He was lead on the Bundy case, 00:15:54.019 --> 00:15:56.020 So he's up to speed on serials, 00:15:56.021 --> 00:15:58.022 And so he'd be like an independent review. 00:15:58.023 --> 00:16:02.026 So if we had to fold the task force back into homicide, 00:16:02.027 --> 00:16:04.029 nobody would say we didn't do everything we could. 00:16:04.530 --> 00:16:06.031 That's not bad. 00:16:06.532 --> 00:16:09.034 You know, the day they got word that Bundy was busted, 00:16:09.535 --> 00:16:11.536 He was next on Keppel's prime suspect list. 00:16:11.537 --> 00:16:13.037 No, sir, I didn't know that. Yeah. 00:16:13.038 --> 00:16:16.040 All that time, and then some Utah State trooper 00:16:16.041 --> 00:16:18.543 gets him on a traffic violation. 00:16:18.544 --> 00:16:21.546 Huh. How's he doing? Okay? 00:16:21.547 --> 00:16:23.048 He seems fine. 00:16:23.549 --> 00:16:26.050 Good. Those cases can suck you under. 00:16:26.051 --> 00:16:27.553 Ruin your career. 00:16:30.556 --> 00:16:32.557 Yeah. Okay. 00:16:32.558 --> 00:16:37.061 Have Keppel review what we've done so far and write up a report. 00:16:37.062 --> 00:16:39.064 A good report. 00:16:39.565 --> 00:16:42.066 You understand what I mean by "good," don't you, Reichert? 00:16:42.067 --> 00:16:43.569 It'll be good, sir. 00:16:48.073 --> 00:16:50.075 So you begin. 00:16:51.577 --> 00:16:53.579 You start putting together the pieces. 00:16:57.082 --> 00:17:00.585 Who he hunts, where he hunts... 00:17:00.586 --> 00:17:01.587 his killing ground. 00:17:08.093 --> 00:17:10.095 What he does to them after he's killed them. 00:17:11.597 --> 00:17:14.600 All the foul places he lives. 00:17:32.618 --> 00:17:35.620 Until he seeps into your pores. 00:17:35.621 --> 00:17:38.624 Lives in your dreams. 00:17:39.124 --> 00:17:40.626 And if you do it right... 00:17:42.127 --> 00:17:44.630 Then, maybe... 00:17:45.130 --> 00:17:48.133 maybe you can learn enough to stop him. 00:18:02.648 --> 00:18:04.149 And you pray. 00:18:06.652 --> 00:18:09.154 You pray a lot. 00:18:14.159 --> 00:18:18.163 Because you know if you don't stop the son of a bitch, he'll keep on killing. 00:18:18.664 --> 00:18:21.165 Are you aware of how this makes us look? 00:18:21.166 --> 00:18:23.167 Like a bunch of bumbling incompetents. 00:18:23.168 --> 00:18:25.169 I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out. 00:18:25.170 --> 00:18:26.671 "Where are the follow-Up reports?" 00:18:26.672 --> 00:18:28.673 "Same frame of reference for all interviews." 00:18:28.674 --> 00:18:32.176 "More bodies means more cops." You think this is helpful? 00:18:32.177 --> 00:18:34.679 Some of Keppel's suggestions aren't bad, lieutenant. 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:36.681 I think he's just trying to help. Help? 00:18:36.682 --> 00:18:38.183 You know him well, do you? 00:18:38.684 --> 00:18:39.684 Not really, sir. 00:18:39.685 --> 00:18:43.187 He's an okay guy, Reichert. He's a complex guy. 00:18:43.188 --> 00:18:47.192 But look, each one of us has a different reason for doing what we do on this case. 00:18:47.693 --> 00:18:49.193 You, Keppel, and me. 00:18:49.194 --> 00:18:50.695 My reason is very simple. 00:18:50.696 --> 00:18:53.197 I need to make an entire department work. 00:18:53.198 --> 00:18:55.558 On a budget that wouldn't pay for a decent bottle of scotch. 00:18:55.701 --> 00:18:56.701 I know that, sir. 00:18:56.702 --> 00:19:00.205 If you knew it, this report would reflect it. 00:19:05.210 --> 00:19:07.712 Look, I don't wanna fold your task force into homicide, 00:19:07.713 --> 00:19:10.715 But I got a lot of cases, and yours is just one of them. 00:19:10.716 --> 00:19:12.216 And it's about hookers. 00:19:12.217 --> 00:19:16.220 And half the time no one even knows if they're missing. 00:19:16.221 --> 00:19:18.223 Am I making myself clear here? 00:19:18.724 --> 00:19:20.225 It's about people, lieutenant. 00:19:20.726 --> 00:19:24.729 Yeah, well, you gotta learn to prioritize, detective. 00:19:24.730 --> 00:19:28.734 Now, go on, get outta here while I figure out what to do with this damn thing. 00:19:30.235 --> 00:19:32.236 Sir? 00:19:32.237 --> 00:19:34.740 Keppel sent a copy of the report to the chief. 00:19:37.743 --> 00:19:39.244 He wasn't happy. 00:19:39.745 --> 00:19:41.746 Well, he'll get over it. 00:19:41.747 --> 00:19:45.750 Bob, it took me eight years to get my gold shield, and I would appreciate... 00:19:45.751 --> 00:19:48.253 Eight years? 00:19:50.756 --> 00:19:52.257 Just eat your doughnut. 00:19:52.758 --> 00:19:56.260 Eat it yourself, Keppel. Oh, come... relax. 00:19:56.261 --> 00:20:00.265 It'll blow over. Just have your coffee. 00:20:03.268 --> 00:20:06.270 What are you in this for, Keppel? 00:20:06.271 --> 00:20:08.774 The same thing you are. 00:20:15.781 --> 00:20:16.782 Thanks, guys! 00:20:23.789 --> 00:20:25.289 Dinner's in the oven. 00:20:25.290 --> 00:20:27.793 Thanks. Sorry. 00:20:29.795 --> 00:20:33.297 It's just it was so busy down there. God! 00:20:33.298 --> 00:20:35.801 It's neverending. 00:20:41.306 --> 00:20:42.307 What is it? 00:20:44.309 --> 00:20:45.310 Hi, dad. 00:20:48.313 --> 00:20:50.315 Hi, sweetie. 00:20:51.817 --> 00:20:53.318 Bye. 00:20:55.320 --> 00:20:57.322 Mail's on the coffee table. 00:21:12.838 --> 00:21:14.839 You want to tell me what's going on? 00:21:14.840 --> 00:21:16.340 I don't know what's going on. 00:21:16.341 --> 00:21:19.343 He has our address. How did he get our address? 00:21:19.344 --> 00:21:20.845 I don't know, and it doesn't matter. 00:21:20.846 --> 00:21:22.406 He's in prison. He's not going anywhere. 00:21:22.848 --> 00:21:25.350 You don't know that. He's escaped twice already. 00:21:27.352 --> 00:21:28.352 What are you doing? 00:21:28.353 --> 00:21:29.854 What am I supposed to do, just ignore it? 00:21:29.855 --> 00:21:32.857 That man is evil, Bob. He infects everything he touches. 00:21:32.858 --> 00:21:35.860 I don't want any thing from that man in this house. 00:21:35.861 --> 00:21:36.861 Throw it out. 00:21:36.862 --> 00:21:39.865 I'm not gonna throw it out. 00:21:41.867 --> 00:21:43.368 It's what I do. 00:22:02.387 --> 00:22:04.388 Dr. Keppel, 00:22:04.389 --> 00:22:06.390 It's quite presumptuous of me to write, I know, 00:22:06.391 --> 00:22:08.893 But I think I might be of help. 00:22:08.894 --> 00:22:12.397 With your investigation of the Green River murders. 00:22:15.901 --> 00:22:18.903 I believe I have strong insights into the mind of the man responsible. 00:22:18.904 --> 00:22:22.407 For placing the bodies on the locations you have found. 00:22:28.413 --> 00:22:31.415 I've been incarcerated with several serial killers, 00:22:31.416 --> 00:22:35.420 and as a result of my extensive conversations with them, 00:22:35.921 --> 00:22:38.923 I think I know a serial killer's frame of mind and motives 00:22:38.924 --> 00:22:41.426 better than almost anyone. 00:22:44.930 --> 00:22:48.934 Because of this, I believe I can bring a unique perspective. 00:22:49.434 --> 00:22:51.436 To your hunt for the Riverman. 00:22:53.438 --> 00:22:56.942 I look forward to hearing from you. 00:23:03.949 --> 00:23:05.951 Honey? 00:23:06.451 --> 00:23:08.953 Just... 00:23:08.954 --> 00:23:12.957 sweetheart, I know how bad it was for you not getting Bundy. 00:23:12.958 --> 00:23:16.961 We all do, but... No, that was just history. It was years ago. 00:23:16.962 --> 00:23:19.464 I know, I know, I'm, uh... 00:23:19.965 --> 00:23:22.466 I'm just saying that... 00:23:22.467 --> 00:23:23.968 okay. 00:23:23.969 --> 00:23:27.471 Okay, well, just... say it. 00:23:27.472 --> 00:23:28.973 Why are you doing this to yourself? 00:23:28.974 --> 00:23:31.476 You know, I'm not doing anything to myself. 00:23:31.977 --> 00:23:33.477 I'm just doing my job. 00:23:33.478 --> 00:23:37.482 I know, I know, but it's my job to protect this family. 00:23:37.983 --> 00:23:42.486 I mean, do you think that you were the only one that... 00:23:42.487 --> 00:23:45.489 Honey, sometimes you'd come home, your head was so far into Bundy, 00:23:45.490 --> 00:23:49.493 Those kids, they'd run into their rooms and hide. 00:23:49.494 --> 00:23:54.999 You'd come to bed, and you'd... 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:59.003 you'd lay there, your head was so full of death. 00:23:59.004 --> 00:24:01.006 Hey, hey, hey... 00:24:02.007 --> 00:24:05.010 okay, come here, come here. 00:24:07.012 --> 00:24:08.513 Okay. 00:24:10.515 --> 00:24:11.516 Hey. 00:24:14.019 --> 00:24:17.521 I-I know it was bad. 00:24:17.522 --> 00:24:19.524 Neither of us want to go back there. 00:24:20.025 --> 00:24:22.527 You gotta trust me, Sande. 00:24:23.028 --> 00:24:25.529 In the letter, 00:24:25.530 --> 00:24:30.034 Bundy says he can help us find the Green River killer, 00:24:30.035 --> 00:24:33.038 And they're gonna need me to go back and talk to him. 00:24:35.040 --> 00:24:38.042 It's not about Bundy. 00:24:38.043 --> 00:24:42.046 It's just about catching the killer of these... God knows how many... 00:24:42.047 --> 00:24:46.551 It's not about the eight women in Seattle that Bundy didn't confess to? 00:24:47.052 --> 00:24:49.053 No. 00:24:49.054 --> 00:24:52.057 It's under control. That's... 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.061 I know how far I can go. 00:24:57.062 --> 00:25:01.566 I will not put this family through that again. 00:25:03.568 --> 00:25:05.070 Ever. 00:25:18.083 --> 00:25:19.583 You wanted to see me, sir? 00:25:19.584 --> 00:25:23.088 Dave, nice to see you. Come on in. 00:25:25.590 --> 00:25:29.093 I reread Keppel's report again and you're right, Dave. 00:25:29.094 --> 00:25:31.095 A couple of his points make sense. 00:25:31.096 --> 00:25:35.599 I sent it upstairs with a recommendation that we implement the suggestions. 00:25:35.600 --> 00:25:39.104 Chief Erickson agrees. He's expanding the task force. 00:25:39.604 --> 00:25:41.605 And he's giving us more money so we can do it right, 00:25:41.606 --> 00:25:43.107 And he wants Keppel to work with us, 00:25:43.108 --> 00:25:45.109 So he's now officially on board. 00:25:45.110 --> 00:25:47.111 You're kidding. 00:25:47.112 --> 00:25:50.114 Now, enjoy your trip and report to me when you get back. 00:25:50.115 --> 00:25:52.116 What trip? 00:25:52.117 --> 00:25:53.617 I'll let him explain that. 00:25:53.618 --> 00:25:55.119 I-I can't go anywhere. 00:25:55.120 --> 00:25:58.122 I have to integrate the new people into the task force. 00:25:58.123 --> 00:26:02.126 Uh, see, the chief feels that with a task force this size, 00:26:02.127 --> 00:26:04.128 It'd be better if I walk the point. 00:26:04.129 --> 00:26:06.630 So you'll be my number two. 00:26:06.631 --> 00:26:08.133 Nice work, Dave. 00:26:17.642 --> 00:26:19.643 What the hell is going on? 00:26:19.644 --> 00:26:22.646 Politics. Politics is going on. 00:26:22.647 --> 00:26:24.648 I lost the task force. 00:26:24.649 --> 00:26:27.651 Downing played me like a fish! 00:26:27.652 --> 00:26:29.653 Yeah. That he did. 00:26:29.654 --> 00:26:31.656 You think that's funny, don't you? No, I don't, no. 00:26:32.157 --> 00:26:35.159 But the next time somebody tries to play you, it's not gonna be so easy. 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:38.662 What's this? It's a plane ticket. We're going to Florida. 00:26:38.663 --> 00:26:41.166 For what? Ted Bundy. 00:26:58.183 --> 00:27:02.187 This here was used for quarantined prisoners back when they built the place. 00:27:02.687 --> 00:27:04.688 Bundy raised holy hell when I put him here. 00:27:04.689 --> 00:27:06.691 Some crapola about his rights. 00:27:07.192 --> 00:27:08.692 I told him he shouldn't have tried to escape. 00:27:08.693 --> 00:27:13.197 You'd think a right smart fellow like that would be thanking me, 00:27:13.198 --> 00:27:15.199 putting him in the coolest cell in the prison. 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:17.701 Never has. 00:27:17.702 --> 00:27:20.204 This is the coolest? Even on a hot day. 00:27:20.205 --> 00:27:23.707 Sammy will let you out when you've had enough. 00:27:23.708 --> 00:27:25.209 Thank you for your help, warden Owens. 00:27:25.210 --> 00:27:29.213 I may be a redneck son of a bitch, Mr. Keppel, 00:27:29.214 --> 00:27:32.216 But Ted Bundy ain't gettin' out of my prison. 00:27:32.217 --> 00:27:34.218 I understand that. 00:27:34.219 --> 00:27:35.719 I know you do. 00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:37.221 Let me know if you need anything. 00:27:37.222 --> 00:27:40.725 Other than a good shower when you get done with him. 00:27:50.735 --> 00:27:51.735 Hello, Ted. 00:27:51.736 --> 00:27:54.739 Oh, uh... hey, Bob. 00:27:56.741 --> 00:27:58.243 Long time no see. 00:27:58.743 --> 00:28:00.244 How you doin'? 00:28:00.245 --> 00:28:01.246 I'm good. Thanks. 00:28:01.746 --> 00:28:05.249 This is my partner Dave Reichert from King County. 00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:07.751 He's the presiding detective on the green river case. 00:28:07.752 --> 00:28:12.256 Listen, Bob, I, um, I think I made a mistake. 00:28:12.257 --> 00:28:13.757 How so? 00:28:13.758 --> 00:28:16.260 Well, I... I think I wasted your time, 00:28:16.261 --> 00:28:17.762 Bringing you all the way down here. 00:28:18.263 --> 00:28:21.765 It was presumptuous of me to think that I could have any insight into this case. 00:28:21.766 --> 00:28:23.767 I mean, I'm... 00:28:23.768 --> 00:28:25.769 I'm no detective. 00:28:25.770 --> 00:28:27.771 You guys are much better at this than I am. 00:28:27.772 --> 00:28:29.273 Doesn't mean you don't have good ideas. 00:28:29.274 --> 00:28:31.275 Your letter indicated some insights. 00:28:31.276 --> 00:28:33.777 We're looking forward to hearing 'em. 00:28:33.778 --> 00:28:38.782 I did have this one idea about catching him, but, uh... 00:28:38.783 --> 00:28:41.785 you'd probably think it was a little bit odd. 00:28:41.786 --> 00:28:45.289 If I felt that way about your ideas, I wouldn't be here. 00:28:45.290 --> 00:28:47.291 Well, I... I had this one thought, 00:28:47.292 --> 00:28:51.295 and, uh, well, you may think it's way off-Kilter, 00:28:51.296 --> 00:28:54.298 But it occurred to me, you know, 00:28:54.299 --> 00:28:57.302 no one has ever made a correlation between violent sexual movies. 00:28:57.802 --> 00:28:59.303 That involves fantasy role-playing. 00:28:59.304 --> 00:29:01.305 People who actually act upon them. 00:29:01.306 --> 00:29:06.311 And I was thinking, if you held a slasher film festival. 00:29:06.811 --> 00:29:08.812 In the sea-tac area, mm-hmm. 00:29:08.813 --> 00:29:12.317 I guarantee you that if you staked out the theater... 00:29:13.818 --> 00:29:16.321 And took pictures of all the patrons going in and out, 00:29:18.823 --> 00:29:20.825 I'm sure you'd have a... 00:29:21.326 --> 00:29:22.327 whole pile of suspects. 00:29:27.832 --> 00:29:30.335 That's another discussion. 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:36.840 One thing's certain: 00:29:36.841 --> 00:29:41.345 This Riverman of yours is a low-risk hunter. 00:29:41.346 --> 00:29:42.347 Uh-Huh. Low-Risk hunter? 00:29:42.847 --> 00:29:46.851 Yeah. Whores are easy prey. 00:29:47.352 --> 00:29:49.853 They're bold, hard to intimidate, 00:29:49.854 --> 00:29:51.855 Cut off from their families. 00:29:51.856 --> 00:29:54.858 No one cares if they're missing for a few days. 00:29:54.859 --> 00:29:57.361 Can we just get some perfunctory questions out of the way? 00:29:57.362 --> 00:29:59.363 Are aware the interview's being taped? 00:29:59.364 --> 00:30:00.864 I am. 00:30:00.865 --> 00:30:03.868 And it's being done with your approval? Yes. 00:30:05.370 --> 00:30:08.872 See, this guy's a bottom-feeder. 00:30:08.873 --> 00:30:11.375 Doesn't have the moves, to troll for classy victims. 00:30:11.376 --> 00:30:13.377 Trolling. 00:30:13.378 --> 00:30:16.381 Tell me about trolling, Ted. 00:30:17.882 --> 00:30:19.884 Well, it's, uh... 00:30:21.886 --> 00:30:23.387 It's what he does. 00:30:23.388 --> 00:30:27.891 This one plans. 00:30:27.892 --> 00:30:30.395 He knows his hunting ground. 00:30:33.398 --> 00:30:36.401 He trolls until he finds the one he wants. 00:30:39.404 --> 00:30:43.407 And then when... When everything's right... 00:30:43.408 --> 00:30:44.909 The time, 00:30:45.410 --> 00:30:49.913 The place, 00:30:49.914 --> 00:30:51.416 The feeling... 00:30:53.418 --> 00:30:55.920 he casts his lure and... 00:30:57.422 --> 00:30:59.923 gotcha. 00:30:59.924 --> 00:31:02.524 You'd be surprised at the kind of people running around out there. 00:31:02.927 --> 00:31:03.928 It's, uh... 00:31:04.429 --> 00:31:05.929 It's frightening. 00:31:05.930 --> 00:31:09.433 So what's a classy victim? 00:31:09.434 --> 00:31:11.435 Women with normal lives: 00:31:11.436 --> 00:31:14.438 Clerks, housewives, students. 00:31:14.439 --> 00:31:17.442 Subjects who live in neighborhoods. 00:31:17.942 --> 00:31:19.943 With friends who'll miss 'em if they disappear. 00:31:19.944 --> 00:31:22.946 Subjects that take skill. 00:31:22.947 --> 00:31:25.449 To lure them out of their comfort zones. 00:31:25.450 --> 00:31:27.451 Subjects you need to put the moves on. 00:31:27.452 --> 00:31:30.954 In other words, things that are of an art. 00:31:30.955 --> 00:31:34.459 How? How does he lure them? What are his moves? 00:31:34.959 --> 00:31:37.461 The Riverman doesn't have moves. They come to him. 00:31:37.462 --> 00:31:39.963 We are talking about the Riverman, aren't we, Bob? 00:31:39.964 --> 00:31:44.469 Well, what else are we allowed to talk about, Ted? 00:31:44.969 --> 00:31:48.972 I can get you inside his head, but, um... 00:31:48.973 --> 00:31:50.975 I'm gonna need the files to do it. 00:31:53.478 --> 00:31:54.979 Mm... 00:31:55.480 --> 00:32:00.485 Well, you don't expect me to work from news reports, do you, Bob? 00:32:14.499 --> 00:32:16.000 What's this, one file? 00:32:16.501 --> 00:32:17.502 Yes, one file. 00:32:18.002 --> 00:32:21.005 There'll be more later if it works out. 00:32:31.516 --> 00:32:34.017 Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 00:32:34.018 --> 00:32:37.521 Where are the photos? The crime scene photos, the coroner's photos. 00:32:37.522 --> 00:32:40.024 There's no photos in here. 00:32:41.025 --> 00:32:43.027 There are lots of photos, Ted. 00:32:49.033 --> 00:32:50.034 Hey, Bob. 00:32:51.536 --> 00:32:54.539 I heard you took it hard when the... 00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.543 When the killer of those eight Seattle women got away from you. 00:33:00.044 --> 00:33:02.547 It's good to see you feeling better. 00:33:09.053 --> 00:33:10.054 Are you okay? 00:33:10.555 --> 00:33:12.055 Yeah, I'm fine. 00:33:12.056 --> 00:33:14.558 That boy's a piece of work, all right. 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:17.561 Talking to him's like having a slug crawl over your face. 00:33:17.562 --> 00:33:21.065 Yes, when you're talking to his good side. Thanks, Sammy. 00:33:21.566 --> 00:33:23.568 - I apologize. - What for? 00:33:24.068 --> 00:33:28.071 I thought you were playing me to get to Bundy. 00:33:28.072 --> 00:33:30.074 You sure I'm not? 00:34:26.631 --> 00:34:28.132 Detective Keppel. 00:34:30.134 --> 00:34:32.636 He what? 00:34:32.637 --> 00:34:34.138 Well, yeah... 00:34:35.640 --> 00:34:38.642 What, does the judge think he's dealing with a shoplifter? 00:34:38.643 --> 00:34:41.144 That son of a bit... 00:34:41.145 --> 00:34:42.647 Yeah, yeah. 00:34:44.649 --> 00:34:46.149 Okay. Thank you. 00:34:46.150 --> 00:34:51.154 The judge in Utah let Bundy travel while he's out on bail. 00:34:51.155 --> 00:34:53.156 So where is he? 00:34:53.157 --> 00:34:54.659 He's here. 00:34:55.660 --> 00:34:57.661 Here he comes, folks. 00:34:57.662 --> 00:34:59.663 Ted Bundy, law student. 00:34:59.664 --> 00:35:02.666 Pride of the Seattle Young Republicans. 00:35:02.667 --> 00:35:04.168 You read that article in the P.I.? 00:35:04.669 --> 00:35:08.171 Politician runnin' off about how it couldn't be his friend Ted. 00:35:08.172 --> 00:35:10.173 Let's see what he has to say. 00:35:10.174 --> 00:35:13.176 Bob, are you sure you want... Oh, Shit. 00:35:13.177 --> 00:35:15.679 Hey, Ted. 00:35:15.680 --> 00:35:17.682 You need some help with that? 00:35:18.182 --> 00:35:21.185 Oh, no, no, I-I got it. Thanks. 00:35:23.187 --> 00:35:25.188 Bob Keppel, King County. 00:35:25.189 --> 00:35:28.192 You guys must think I'm a... a flight risk, huh? 00:35:28.693 --> 00:35:31.695 No. We just think we have eight open cases we'd like to talk to you about. 00:35:31.696 --> 00:35:34.698 Yeah, yeah, I know, but, um... 00:35:34.699 --> 00:35:37.702 now is not the time. 00:35:59.223 --> 00:36:01.726 Hey, Reichert. Reichert. 00:36:05.229 --> 00:36:08.232 Bundy is gonna use the Riverman to tell us about himself. 00:36:10.234 --> 00:36:12.235 It's because he understands the Riverman, Dave. 00:36:12.236 --> 00:36:14.739 We'll still get... 00:36:21.245 --> 00:36:24.247 Tell me you didn't bring those with you. 00:36:24.248 --> 00:36:27.250 Sure. I take 'em everywhere. 00:36:27.251 --> 00:36:28.753 Relieves tension. 00:36:32.256 --> 00:36:36.761 You have the opportunity to have a whole lot more fun relieving the tension. 00:36:38.262 --> 00:36:40.764 No! No, I... 00:36:40.765 --> 00:36:44.769 I-I didn't. I mean I wouldn't. I'm married. 00:36:45.269 --> 00:36:46.269 Buzz off, Keppel. 00:36:46.270 --> 00:36:48.271 You are Jimmy Stewart, aren't you? No! 00:36:48.272 --> 00:36:52.777 No! I am... I am... really embarrassed. 00:36:54.779 --> 00:36:57.781 So what do you think got the biggest reaction yesterday? 00:36:57.782 --> 00:37:00.283 The photo. It got to him. 00:37:00.284 --> 00:37:04.287 Yeah. And you know what? He's scared. 00:37:04.288 --> 00:37:07.290 Of what? Probably scared of being worthless. 00:37:07.291 --> 00:37:10.795 He wants us to know he's important. 00:37:11.295 --> 00:37:14.297 So we're gonna tell him he's aces. 00:37:14.298 --> 00:37:16.299 We're gonna respect him. 00:37:16.300 --> 00:37:18.802 Can you handle that? 00:37:18.803 --> 00:37:20.304 I don't know. 00:37:22.306 --> 00:37:24.808 This is a continuing conversation with Ted Bundy. 00:37:24.809 --> 00:37:27.812 The time is 1400 hours. Go ahead. 00:37:28.312 --> 00:37:29.813 Hey, Bob. Yeah. 00:37:29.814 --> 00:37:32.315 I don't suppose you can have a word with the warden, 00:37:32.316 --> 00:37:34.818 See if we can do these interviews out there? 00:37:34.819 --> 00:37:37.320 I feel kind of claustrophobic in here. 00:37:37.321 --> 00:37:40.824 Well, I don't know. I'll... I'll see what I can do. 00:37:40.825 --> 00:37:43.326 Thanks. 00:37:43.327 --> 00:37:46.830 Let me say first of all that... 00:37:46.831 --> 00:37:50.333 I have a lot of preconceptions based on nothing, 00:37:50.334 --> 00:37:52.837 Just based on a feeling, intuition. 00:37:53.337 --> 00:37:57.341 And having said that, I went over the file you gave me, 00:37:57.842 --> 00:38:02.345 And, uh, it sort of reshaped my feelings, looking at what you had here. 00:38:02.346 --> 00:38:04.848 Yeah. And then I just got to, you know, 00:38:04.849 --> 00:38:08.853 Jotting a few things down, and you see here, 00:38:09.353 --> 00:38:11.856 It shows the date... 00:38:12.356 --> 00:38:15.859 and approximate time of each disappearance. 00:38:15.860 --> 00:38:19.363 And given the data, you can that see he must work odd hours. 00:38:19.864 --> 00:38:21.364 At his day job, not his night work. 00:38:21.365 --> 00:38:24.368 Ted. Yeah. That's good work, 00:38:24.869 --> 00:38:27.370 Well, I'm no expert in this area, 00:38:27.371 --> 00:38:29.873 But I do have a degree in psychology. 00:38:29.874 --> 00:38:31.374 Am I loud enough for that tape? 00:38:31.375 --> 00:38:32.876 Yeah, yeah. 00:38:32.877 --> 00:38:34.878 Yeah, no, it's making... It's making sense. 00:38:34.879 --> 00:38:36.881 Just keep going. 00:38:37.381 --> 00:38:39.884 Thanks, Bob. I hope it's helpful. 00:38:40.384 --> 00:38:43.887 As you can see, he's only taken one victim on a Friday. 00:38:43.888 --> 00:38:46.389 And one on a Saturday. 00:38:46.390 --> 00:38:50.894 Clearly he prefers to hunt Sunday through Thursday. 00:38:50.895 --> 00:38:52.896 Well, what do you think about that? 00:38:52.897 --> 00:38:54.397 He's got a weird day job. 00:38:54.398 --> 00:38:56.900 Yeah, or he spends weekends with his family. 00:38:56.901 --> 00:38:58.902 Yeah, yeah, that's good thinking. 00:38:58.903 --> 00:39:01.405 Or he works Sunday through Thursday. 00:39:01.906 --> 00:39:04.408 And trolls while he's working, like a... 00:39:04.909 --> 00:39:06.409 Like a cabbie. Yeah, like a cabbie. 00:39:06.410 --> 00:39:07.410 Or a bartender... 00:39:07.411 --> 00:39:08.411 or a pimp... 00:39:08.412 --> 00:39:11.415 or anyone who works on the Strip. 00:39:11.916 --> 00:39:14.418 Not anyone. 00:39:14.919 --> 00:39:16.921 Anyone nonthreatening. 00:39:17.421 --> 00:39:20.924 See, the whores are looking for a monster, 00:39:20.925 --> 00:39:24.928 Some big, drooling, tattooed guy with a meat cleaver in his hand, 00:39:24.929 --> 00:39:27.430 And that's just stupid. 00:39:27.431 --> 00:39:29.934 'Cause the Riverman looks normal, 00:39:30.434 --> 00:39:31.935 Just like you and me. 00:39:31.936 --> 00:39:35.438 Yeah, he's just a normal guy, Bundy. 00:39:35.439 --> 00:39:39.943 He is a normal guy. That's the point. 00:39:39.944 --> 00:39:41.945 Normal guys don't kill little girls. 00:39:41.946 --> 00:39:43.947 Dave! Normal guys don't leave heads in fields. 00:39:43.948 --> 00:39:45.448 Dave, can it. 00:39:45.449 --> 00:39:49.954 You know, Bob, I'm sick and tired of being treated like an animal 00:39:50.454 --> 00:39:54.457 or ogled at like I'm some kind of weirdo, because I'm not. 00:39:54.458 --> 00:39:57.961 And if you think you're gonna catch the Riverman, Dave, 00:39:57.962 --> 00:39:59.462 you're very much mistaken. 00:39:59.463 --> 00:40:03.967 Because you don't have the guts to pay the price. 00:40:03.968 --> 00:40:06.469 You know what? 00:40:06.470 --> 00:40:10.974 Well, let's see what Thetacoma Herald had to say about it, shall we? 00:40:10.975 --> 00:40:13.476 Detective Reichert of the Green River task force 00:40:13.477 --> 00:40:16.117 must be feeling the heat with more than a dozen unsolved murders... 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:17.481 Dave, no, no. 00:40:17.982 --> 00:40:20.484 Wow, that's some review. 00:40:23.487 --> 00:40:26.990 Yeah, there are still more bodies out there. 00:40:26.991 --> 00:40:28.993 I guarantee it. 00:40:41.005 --> 00:40:43.507 I wanted to waste him. 00:40:44.008 --> 00:40:46.009 I really did. I wanted to kill him. 00:40:46.010 --> 00:40:49.012 I never done that before. 00:40:49.013 --> 00:40:51.514 Man! 00:40:51.515 --> 00:40:54.017 Maybe he's right, Bob. Maybe I'm not cut out for serial work. 00:40:54.018 --> 00:40:56.519 You through whining? 00:40:56.520 --> 00:40:59.022 Go to hell! Oh! 00:40:59.023 --> 00:41:01.525 A swear word just escape that virgin mouth? 00:41:02.026 --> 00:41:03.527 What is it with you anyway, Keppel? 00:41:04.028 --> 00:41:06.529 I screw up, and all you can do is joke about it? 00:41:06.530 --> 00:41:10.533 The reason I'm working with you is 'cause you have the balls to ask for help, 00:41:10.534 --> 00:41:12.535 which means you're more interested in bringing down the perp 00:41:12.536 --> 00:41:14.037 than protecting your skinny ass, 00:41:14.038 --> 00:41:18.542 but it's not gonna happen unless you learn to control your emotions. 00:41:21.045 --> 00:41:25.048 Dave, did I say we were gonna try and keep a low profile 00:41:25.049 --> 00:41:27.050 so the press doesn't find out we're here? 00:41:27.051 --> 00:41:29.052 Yeah. Why? 00:41:29.053 --> 00:41:31.555 Your fan club's been busy. 00:41:33.557 --> 00:41:35.558 Ah, geez! 00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.063 Mr. Reichert, you have message. 00:41:41.065 --> 00:41:42.565 Okay? 00:41:42.566 --> 00:41:45.569 Don't they usually leave messages in your room? 00:41:46.070 --> 00:41:47.571 Found another dump site. 00:41:52.576 --> 00:41:54.577 So, uh, where's Dave? 00:41:54.578 --> 00:41:56.579 He's back in Seattle. 00:41:56.580 --> 00:42:00.083 You know, I don't think Dave's gonna make it, Bob. 00:42:00.084 --> 00:42:02.585 What do you mean? 00:42:02.586 --> 00:42:06.090 Well, he's too confrontational too judgmental. 00:42:06.590 --> 00:42:10.594 You'd last a second with any of the guys on the row with an attitude like that. 00:42:12.096 --> 00:42:14.097 How does a detective talk to someone. 00:42:14.098 --> 00:42:16.599 Without them feeling they're being judged? 00:42:16.600 --> 00:42:20.103 Well, first you have to establish trust. 00:42:20.104 --> 00:42:22.605 How do you do that? How do you get 'em to talk? 00:42:22.606 --> 00:42:24.607 Me? Yeah. 00:42:24.608 --> 00:42:30.113 Well, I play at being intrigued at what they did. 00:42:30.114 --> 00:42:35.618 See, each guy has a particular view of the world, 00:42:35.619 --> 00:42:39.122 So I just figure out what that is. 00:42:39.123 --> 00:42:41.124 I'm sorry. I'm not really following you. 00:42:41.125 --> 00:42:44.127 Can you give me an example? 00:42:44.128 --> 00:42:46.630 There's this one guy I got talking to here. 00:42:47.131 --> 00:42:50.633 He told me all about the women he'd killed, but... 00:42:50.634 --> 00:42:54.138 wouldn't talk about this one little girl he was accused of raping and murdering. 00:42:54.638 --> 00:42:56.639 Mm-Hmm. 00:42:56.640 --> 00:42:59.142 Finally he admitted that he couldn't talk about it 00:42:59.143 --> 00:43:02.645 because people would think that he was a bad person. 00:43:02.646 --> 00:43:05.648 Get what I'm saying? 00:43:05.649 --> 00:43:06.650 Yeah. 00:43:08.152 --> 00:43:10.153 Anyway, I was, um, 00:43:10.154 --> 00:43:13.656 I was going over my notes last night, and... 00:43:13.657 --> 00:43:16.659 my initial impression was that the person you're looking for 00:43:16.660 --> 00:43:21.164 is probably a young white male. 00:43:21.165 --> 00:43:24.667 Possibly working at a low-paying job that restricts his movement. 00:43:24.668 --> 00:43:26.169 And how young is young? 00:43:26.170 --> 00:43:28.172 20, 25. Married? 00:43:28.672 --> 00:43:30.173 Doubt it. 00:43:30.174 --> 00:43:31.675 He's got girlfriends? 00:43:32.176 --> 00:43:33.676 Well, if there is someone, 00:43:33.677 --> 00:43:37.681 It's more than likely there have been relationship problems. 00:43:39.683 --> 00:43:41.184 I also think there's an excellent chance. 00:43:41.185 --> 00:43:43.686 That this guy's been picked up for something. 00:43:43.687 --> 00:43:45.188 Really? 00:43:45.189 --> 00:43:47.691 Assault, battery, maybe. 00:43:48.192 --> 00:43:49.693 I don't know. Hmm. 00:43:50.194 --> 00:43:52.696 He's impressive... to a point, 00:43:53.197 --> 00:43:57.200 Given the fact that his cargo gets into cars with strange men for a living. 00:43:57.201 --> 00:44:00.704 Yeah, yeah, but these are- - I mean, they're tough. 00:44:01.205 --> 00:44:05.709 They're street-smart girls. I mean, how does he do it? 00:44:06.210 --> 00:44:09.212 Well, he blends. 00:44:09.213 --> 00:44:13.216 He knows the scene. 00:44:13.217 --> 00:44:18.221 Yeah, he knows it better than his prey does. 00:44:18.222 --> 00:44:19.722 He knows her hours, 00:44:19.723 --> 00:44:23.227 The corner she works, 00:44:23.727 --> 00:44:27.731 When she hasn't tricked and her pimp's in her face to produce. 00:44:30.234 --> 00:44:35.238 And then, then when the time is right, 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:36.740 He moves... 00:44:37.241 --> 00:44:39.742 soft as the rain. 00:44:39.743 --> 00:44:43.246 He's flowing now... 00:44:43.247 --> 00:44:45.248 like a river... 00:44:45.249 --> 00:44:47.250 because... 00:44:47.251 --> 00:44:51.254 she's the one, the chosen. 00:44:51.255 --> 00:44:53.256 And she? 00:44:53.257 --> 00:44:56.260 She belongs... 00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:58.262 to him. 00:44:59.763 --> 00:45:03.766 Car? What's going on in his mind when he's got her in the 00:45:03.767 --> 00:45:06.770 well, it's hard to say. 00:45:08.272 --> 00:45:13.276 I mean, how can I get deeper into his head? 00:45:13.277 --> 00:45:15.778 You sure you wanna go through that again? 00:45:15.779 --> 00:45:17.281 Yeah, but I need you to help me. 00:45:17.781 --> 00:45:20.284 That's good psychology, Bob. 00:45:23.287 --> 00:45:25.789 You know what you are? 00:45:29.793 --> 00:45:30.794 What? 00:45:31.295 --> 00:45:32.815 You're a fisherman who fishes for years 00:45:33.297 --> 00:45:35.798 and only catches small fish. 00:45:35.799 --> 00:45:39.802 Deep down, you know there's a real big fish under there, 00:45:39.803 --> 00:45:41.805 One that always gets away. 00:45:42.306 --> 00:45:44.307 But you'll never catch him. 00:45:44.308 --> 00:45:48.812 The only way you're gonna know what goes on under the water is to go under the water. 00:45:49.313 --> 00:45:52.816 But fisherman drowns going underwater. 00:45:54.818 --> 00:45:58.822 I can take you there without drowning, but... 00:45:59.323 --> 00:46:01.325 in order to do that, I'm gonna need the photos. 00:46:03.327 --> 00:46:05.329 Crime scene photos. 00:46:07.331 --> 00:46:10.334 I might be able to do it with that. 00:46:15.339 --> 00:46:18.841 These are complex people, Bob. 00:46:18.842 --> 00:46:22.346 People who have things to teach us about life... 00:46:24.348 --> 00:46:26.350 about ourselves. 00:46:30.354 --> 00:46:32.355 Yeah, everything's fine. How are the kids? 00:46:32.356 --> 00:46:34.357 They're fine. David's practicing, 00:46:34.358 --> 00:46:37.861 and Ally's making like a pretzel. 00:46:42.366 --> 00:46:44.368 Bob, are you there? 00:46:44.868 --> 00:46:48.371 Yeah, yeah. How are the kids... Sorry. How are you? 00:46:48.372 --> 00:46:52.375 I'm fine. How's it going with Bundy? 00:46:52.376 --> 00:46:54.377 Oh, it's a piece of cake. It's okay. 00:46:54.378 --> 00:46:59.382 Honey, I got a real long day tomorrow, okay? I love you. 00:46:59.383 --> 00:47:01.884 Hold on. Ally wants to say hello. 00:47:01.885 --> 00:47:03.386 Here, sweetie. 00:47:03.387 --> 00:47:04.388 Hi, dad. 00:47:05.889 --> 00:47:07.891 Dad? 00:47:09.393 --> 00:47:11.395 He hung up. 00:47:28.412 --> 00:47:30.914 He feels the power, the drive. 00:47:31.415 --> 00:47:33.916 No one can touch him. 00:47:33.917 --> 00:47:36.420 He is invincible. 00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:38.422 And what else does he feel? 00:47:38.922 --> 00:47:39.922 Anticipation, 00:47:39.923 --> 00:47:44.428 Excitement, arousal. Very high state of arousal. 00:47:44.928 --> 00:47:46.929 Can he satisfy his arousal? 00:47:46.930 --> 00:47:48.931 Only by possessing her... 00:47:48.932 --> 00:47:50.433 completely. 00:47:50.434 --> 00:47:53.936 And how? How does he possess her completely? 00:47:53.937 --> 00:47:57.440 Well, the ultimate possession is death. 00:47:57.441 --> 00:47:59.442 Time slows. 00:47:59.443 --> 00:48:00.943 It's an aura. 00:48:00.944 --> 00:48:02.945 It's hallucinogenic. 00:48:02.946 --> 00:48:04.447 But at the center, 00:48:04.448 --> 00:48:07.950 At the center, there's clarity. Ice in the fire. 00:48:07.951 --> 00:48:10.453 What is he thinking about his subject? 00:48:10.454 --> 00:48:14.457 She's a symbol: a gook, a Nazi. 00:48:14.458 --> 00:48:16.460 And he must keep it that way. 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:17.961 Why is that? 00:48:18.462 --> 00:48:24.467 Well, a symbol doesn't create problems. Humans do. 00:48:24.468 --> 00:48:27.470 So he doesn't let her talk. 00:48:27.471 --> 00:48:30.973 He chatters, he entertains. 00:48:30.974 --> 00:48:33.977 And she is captivated. 00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:37.980 How do you feel, Bob? 00:48:37.981 --> 00:48:41.984 Could you... Could you see her, smell her, taste her? 00:48:41.985 --> 00:48:44.488 Mr. Keppel, you got a phone call out here. 00:48:44.988 --> 00:48:48.491 No, not now, Sammy. 00:48:48.492 --> 00:48:51.495 No, it's your partner, sir. He says it's important. 00:48:52.996 --> 00:48:56.499 You were there. I mean, I know you were. 00:48:56.500 --> 00:48:59.001 No, you were there, Ted. 00:48:59.002 --> 00:49:01.504 Yeah. 00:49:01.505 --> 00:49:04.508 Yeah, I was. 00:49:05.008 --> 00:49:06.510 But I was helpful, wasn't I? 00:49:08.011 --> 00:49:10.012 Well, we'll see. 00:49:10.013 --> 00:49:13.516 You know, you should go to the Strip, Bob. 00:49:13.517 --> 00:49:15.518 See what he sees. 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.521 Be the Riverman. 00:49:18.021 --> 00:49:20.023 Who knows? Maybe you are. 00:49:28.532 --> 00:49:30.533 Thank you. 00:49:30.534 --> 00:49:33.036 This better be good, Dave. He's starting to talk. 00:49:33.537 --> 00:49:35.538 He keeps at it, he might even buy himself some time. 00:49:35.539 --> 00:49:40.042 We have a suspect. After what Bundy said, 00:49:40.043 --> 00:49:42.545 I checked out the guys who've been picked up on the Strip. 00:49:42.546 --> 00:49:44.548 He was busted for soliciting an undercover cop 00:49:45.048 --> 00:49:46.549 in April of '82, 00:49:46.550 --> 00:49:50.553 divorced twice with a history of spousal abuse. Uh-Huh. 00:49:50.554 --> 00:49:53.556 He admits to a fascination with prostitutes. 00:49:53.557 --> 00:49:55.559 And this. 00:50:02.566 --> 00:50:05.166 Paints trucks at Kenworth. That's about 20 minutes from the Strip. 00:50:06.069 --> 00:50:08.071 Come on. 00:50:08.572 --> 00:50:09.573 What? 00:50:14.578 --> 00:50:16.579 This is how you want it, right? Yeah. 00:50:16.580 --> 00:50:19.081 Bitch. 00:50:19.082 --> 00:50:22.085 You're a pretty one. 00:50:28.091 --> 00:50:31.093 Take it, slut. You like this, don't you? Yes. 00:50:31.094 --> 00:50:34.097 You fuckin' like it. 00:50:36.099 --> 00:50:38.101 Where does he live? Near the Green River. 00:50:40.103 --> 00:50:43.106 She called the Des Moines police and swore he was trying to kill her. 00:50:47.611 --> 00:50:50.614 The cops stop his pickup, and he says he choked her because she bit him. 00:51:03.627 --> 00:51:05.628 He had a bite mark to prove it. 00:51:05.629 --> 00:51:07.630 This happened three years ago. Yeah. 00:51:07.631 --> 00:51:10.633 And nobody thought he might just possibly be a suspect. 00:51:10.634 --> 00:51:13.636 It was buried in the Port police files. 00:51:13.637 --> 00:51:17.140 So they let him walk. Why not? She's just a whore. 00:51:19.643 --> 00:51:21.645 Lift your right arm. 00:51:24.147 --> 00:51:25.649 Okay. 00:51:29.152 --> 00:51:31.153 Keep your hand there. Is that comfortable? 00:51:31.154 --> 00:51:32.155 Yeah. 00:51:32.656 --> 00:51:35.157 Answer truthfully to the best of your knowledge. 00:51:35.158 --> 00:51:37.660 Is your name Gary Leon Ridgway? 00:51:37.661 --> 00:51:38.661 Yeah. 00:51:38.662 --> 00:51:40.663 He volunteered to take it. 00:51:40.664 --> 00:51:42.165 Quiet, Haney. 00:51:47.671 --> 00:51:50.673 Answer truthfully and to the best of your knowledge. 00:51:50.674 --> 00:51:53.175 Is your name Gary Leon Ridgway? 00:51:53.176 --> 00:51:54.177 Yes. 00:51:56.179 --> 00:51:57.179 What else you got on him? 00:51:57.180 --> 00:52:00.683 Questioned again by the Port police in '82. 00:52:00.684 --> 00:52:04.186 They found him parked by the field where Wim's skeleton was found. 00:52:04.187 --> 00:52:08.190 Says he might've dated her, but he can't remember. 00:52:08.191 --> 00:52:10.231 Answer truthfully and to the best of your knowledge. 00:52:10.694 --> 00:52:12.696 Do you work at Kenworth Trucking? 00:52:13.196 --> 00:52:14.698 Yes. 00:52:16.700 --> 00:52:18.200 Tell Downing to search his house again. 00:52:18.201 --> 00:52:21.203 And this time look for souvenirs like jewelry and clothing 00:52:21.204 --> 00:52:22.705 and hair, teeth. 00:52:22.706 --> 00:52:26.209 Anything that could've come from a victim. Right. 00:52:29.212 --> 00:52:31.213 You should get started with that. 00:52:31.214 --> 00:52:33.717 Will do, Mr. Keppel. 00:52:36.219 --> 00:52:37.219 As soon as they're done with him, 00:52:37.220 --> 00:52:39.722 Let's see if he'll give us a mouth swab. 00:52:39.723 --> 00:52:41.223 With primer spots. 00:52:41.224 --> 00:52:44.226 Yes. Yes, sir. That's my truck. 00:52:44.227 --> 00:52:50.233 I, um, got it in, uh... '77, I think. 00:53:22.766 --> 00:53:23.766 Hey, beautiful. 00:53:23.767 --> 00:53:26.770 You're... You're home. Is everything all right? 00:53:27.270 --> 00:53:30.773 Yeah, yeah. We got a suspect. 00:53:30.774 --> 00:53:32.775 I need a shower, and I gotta go back to work later, 00:53:32.776 --> 00:53:36.780 but not before I've had dinner with my wife. 00:53:48.792 --> 00:53:50.793 Dad, I got this. 00:53:50.794 --> 00:53:52.295 Okay. 00:54:22.325 --> 00:54:24.326 You should go to the Strip, Bob. 00:54:24.327 --> 00:54:26.329 See what he sees. 00:54:37.340 --> 00:54:39.342 You like weather like this, don't you? 00:54:41.845 --> 00:54:44.285 'Cause you know most of the police are busy with the accidents 00:54:44.347 --> 00:54:46.849 that the bad weather brings, 00:54:46.850 --> 00:54:50.353 and the others are somewhere drinking coffee, staying dry. 00:54:53.356 --> 00:54:55.358 The hunting's good, isn't it? 00:54:57.861 --> 00:55:01.864 'Cause you know the only hookers out tonight... 00:55:01.865 --> 00:55:03.366 are desperate, don't you? 00:55:05.869 --> 00:55:07.870 You son of a bitch. 00:55:07.871 --> 00:55:09.372 So you troll. 00:55:12.375 --> 00:55:14.376 And you find her. 00:55:14.377 --> 00:55:17.380 And you know it's her... 00:55:19.382 --> 00:55:20.383 because... 00:55:23.887 --> 00:55:25.889 because she's the one. 00:55:27.891 --> 00:55:28.892 The chosen. 00:55:35.398 --> 00:55:37.400 She belongs to me. 00:55:42.405 --> 00:55:43.907 She belongs to me. 00:55:51.414 --> 00:55:52.916 To me. 00:55:55.919 --> 00:55:57.420 You're my subject. 00:55:59.923 --> 00:56:01.424 My cargo. 00:56:03.927 --> 00:56:05.427 Mine. 00:56:05.428 --> 00:56:08.931 Police! Police! Out of the car now! Get out of the car! 00:56:08.932 --> 00:56:11.934 Get your... Get your hands off! Get your hand off me! 00:56:11.935 --> 00:56:15.437 You have no idea who I am! I don't care who you are! 00:56:15.438 --> 00:56:16.939 Get those cuffs on him! 00:56:16.940 --> 00:56:17.940 It's all right! He's a cop! Goddamn it! 00:56:17.941 --> 00:56:19.942 He's a cop! Show him your badge! 00:56:19.943 --> 00:56:21.944 You got a badge? Come on! It's all right, guys. 00:56:21.945 --> 00:56:24.446 It's all right. It's all right. 00:56:24.447 --> 00:56:25.447 Jesus! Come on. He's on the job. 00:56:25.448 --> 00:56:28.951 All right, guys. Sorry, sorry. Thanks. 00:56:28.952 --> 00:56:30.954 A badge on the job. 00:56:34.457 --> 00:56:35.958 Kinda quiet, Dave. You all right? 00:56:35.959 --> 00:56:37.961 I'm all right. 00:56:39.462 --> 00:56:41.964 You're my partner. Talk to me. 00:56:41.965 --> 00:56:43.966 What are you doing? 00:56:43.967 --> 00:56:45.687 Why didn't you tell him you're a cop? I did. 00:56:45.969 --> 00:56:49.472 After I yelled at you. Man! 00:56:51.474 --> 00:56:52.976 That was scary, Bob. 00:56:54.477 --> 00:56:56.479 Yeah, well... listen to me. 00:56:58.481 --> 00:57:00.984 Listen to me, Bob! 00:57:02.485 --> 00:57:03.486 We have another problem. 00:57:05.488 --> 00:57:07.991 Ridgway passed the polygraph. 00:57:41.524 --> 00:57:44.527 Ridgway! You got company! 00:57:49.032 --> 00:57:50.033 Gary? Yeah. 00:57:50.533 --> 00:57:52.034 I'm Bob Keppel. Hi. 00:57:52.035 --> 00:57:54.536 This is Dave Reichert. Remember him? 00:57:54.537 --> 00:57:58.040 Someplace we can go and talk where it's quiet for just a minute? 00:57:58.041 --> 00:58:00.543 Sure. A room over here. 00:58:01.544 --> 00:58:03.045 It's, uh... 00:58:03.046 --> 00:58:06.048 it's about the polygraph, I guess. 00:58:06.049 --> 00:58:10.052 Yeah, it's kinda... I mean, I just wanna clear a couple things up with you. 00:58:10.053 --> 00:58:13.055 Pretty busy day. This gonna take long? 00:58:13.056 --> 00:58:16.058 Nah, maybe just five minutes. You'll be back on shift. 00:58:16.059 --> 00:58:19.561 Well, you can, uh... hey, hey, Riverman! Going up the creek this time! 00:58:19.562 --> 00:58:21.563 Yeah, hey, killer, killer! Sorry about that. 00:58:21.564 --> 00:58:24.566 You guys been here a lot, and they like to tease me. 00:58:24.567 --> 00:58:26.568 I know it's a pain in the ass for you. 00:58:26.569 --> 00:58:28.570 It's a pain in the ass for us. Yeah. 00:58:28.571 --> 00:58:30.073 Everybody's fed up. 00:58:30.573 --> 00:58:33.075 They're gonna disband the task force. Really? 00:58:33.076 --> 00:58:35.577 Yeah, well, I mean, they're whores anyway, you know. 00:58:35.578 --> 00:58:40.082 Yeah, but some of them are okay, though. 00:58:40.083 --> 00:58:44.087 Oh, that's why you said you were fascinated with prostitutes. 00:58:44.587 --> 00:58:46.588 I'm sorry. F-fascinated? 00:58:46.589 --> 00:58:49.591 Yeah. You said you were fascinated with prostitutes, right? 00:58:49.592 --> 00:58:52.594 Oh, yeah, well, that's, uh... 00:58:52.595 --> 00:58:55.098 They... They sell sex. 00:58:55.598 --> 00:58:59.101 I mean, that's, uh... That's kinda... 00:58:59.102 --> 00:59:00.602 It's not normal, 00:59:00.603 --> 00:59:04.106 And yet they strut around like it's normal. 00:59:04.107 --> 00:59:09.611 And, I mean, you know, they wear those clothes and... 00:59:09.612 --> 00:59:11.114 I mean... 00:59:11.614 --> 00:59:12.615 what do you mean, Gary? 00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:18.620 You know what I mean. 00:59:18.621 --> 00:59:20.122 Yeah. No, I know. I know what you mean. 00:59:20.123 --> 00:59:22.624 I can't believe it, some of the clothes those girls wear. 00:59:22.625 --> 00:59:24.126 No. 00:59:24.127 --> 00:59:25.627 You ever rape anyone, Gary? 00:59:25.628 --> 00:59:27.630 No. 00:59:29.632 --> 00:59:32.635 No, I wouldn't do that. 00:59:33.136 --> 00:59:36.138 Rapists are... 00:59:36.139 --> 00:59:38.140 not me, okay? 00:59:38.141 --> 00:59:39.141 Rapists are scum. 00:59:39.142 --> 00:59:41.643 Okay. And that's not you. 00:59:41.644 --> 00:59:44.147 No. I'm not that. 00:59:47.650 --> 00:59:49.151 Okay. 00:59:49.152 --> 00:59:51.654 Okay? 00:59:53.656 --> 00:59:54.656 Thank you. 00:59:54.657 --> 00:59:56.159 Thanks. 00:59:59.662 --> 01:00:02.664 He's the perp. Just like that? 01:00:02.665 --> 01:00:04.705 His reaction when I asked him if he raped anybody... 01:00:05.168 --> 01:00:06.288 I'd react the same way, Bob. 01:00:06.669 --> 01:00:08.670 No. You'd react like it was unthinkable. 01:00:08.671 --> 01:00:13.675 And he reacted like he was afraid people were gonna think he's a bad person. 01:00:13.676 --> 01:00:16.678 So what's the plan? 01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.680 Take me to the airport. 01:00:18.681 --> 01:00:20.182 What? 01:00:20.183 --> 01:00:21.683 Take me to the airport. 01:00:21.684 --> 01:00:23.186 You're going back? 01:00:24.687 --> 01:00:26.189 Why, Bob? 01:00:28.191 --> 01:00:30.193 Why are you doing this to yourself, hmm? 01:00:32.195 --> 01:00:34.197 Look, Bob, last night... 01:00:34.697 --> 01:00:36.698 This is none of... 01:00:36.699 --> 01:00:40.203 No, no, it is my business. 01:00:40.703 --> 01:00:42.705 They say when you were working the Bundy case. 01:00:43.206 --> 01:00:45.708 That you had some kind of breakdown... 01:00:46.209 --> 01:00:48.710 Hey, look, they say wrong, all right? 01:00:48.711 --> 01:00:50.951 Dave, you gotta crawl under rocks where the serials live, 01:00:51.214 --> 01:00:53.716 Then you gotta come back, you gotta tell people what you saw. 01:00:57.220 --> 01:00:59.222 Let's go. 01:01:06.729 --> 01:01:08.230 I don't wanna be talked out of this. 01:01:08.231 --> 01:01:10.232 What do I tell your daughter? 01:01:10.233 --> 01:01:12.235 About what? 01:01:15.738 --> 01:01:19.741 Damn. Okay. Just tell her I'm sorry and... 01:01:19.742 --> 01:01:22.245 you know, I don't know what else I... 01:01:23.746 --> 01:01:26.249 Sande, Bundy... The appeal was denied, okay? 01:01:26.749 --> 01:01:27.749 He's vulnerable. 01:01:27.750 --> 01:01:29.251 So are you. 01:01:29.252 --> 01:01:31.754 Well, that's... that's unfair. I... 01:01:33.756 --> 01:01:36.259 yeah, okay, maybe, but I... 01:01:39.262 --> 01:01:41.264 I have to do this. 01:01:44.767 --> 01:01:48.270 Okay, so there's a morality to murder. 01:01:48.271 --> 01:01:49.772 Oh, sure. 01:01:50.273 --> 01:01:53.775 I mean, you may not agree with what the Riverman does, 01:01:53.776 --> 01:01:57.779 But to understand, you gotta empathize with him. 01:01:57.780 --> 01:01:59.781 And I mean real empathy, Bob, 01:01:59.782 --> 01:02:04.786 Not "let's have a cup of coffee and a cigarette and let's talk about it" bullshit. 01:02:04.787 --> 01:02:10.292 I mean, these guys, they have to live with their urges, 01:02:10.293 --> 01:02:13.295 and they have to keep 'em secret. 01:02:13.296 --> 01:02:15.297 You think that's easy? 01:02:15.298 --> 01:02:18.301 To kill and keep yourself socially acceptable? 01:02:20.803 --> 01:02:24.306 To be a serial killer and keep your day job? 01:02:24.307 --> 01:02:29.812 Give credit to that, for being normal when... 01:02:30.313 --> 01:02:32.315 When you're possessing your subject. 01:02:38.821 --> 01:02:40.323 You saw, didn't you? 01:02:43.826 --> 01:02:46.329 Tell me. Tell me what you saw. 01:02:48.331 --> 01:02:49.331 No. 01:02:49.332 --> 01:02:51.834 Oh, come on, Bob. 01:02:57.840 --> 01:02:59.841 And it belongs to me. 01:02:59.842 --> 01:03:02.345 You felt it, didn't you? 01:03:03.846 --> 01:03:04.847 No. 01:03:05.348 --> 01:03:06.849 Come on, tell me. 01:03:11.854 --> 01:03:13.356 I was soft. 01:03:15.358 --> 01:03:17.359 Soft as the rain. 01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:19.362 Flowing like a river. 01:03:22.865 --> 01:03:23.866 And? 01:03:29.872 --> 01:03:30.872 Ted, later. 01:03:30.873 --> 01:03:33.876 No. Now. Tell me now, Bob. 01:03:35.378 --> 01:03:38.381 I understand. I do. You know I do. 01:03:44.887 --> 01:03:47.390 Oh, I get it. 01:03:50.393 --> 01:03:53.396 You did something to her, didn't you? 01:03:53.896 --> 01:03:56.899 It's okay, it's okay. I understand. 01:03:59.402 --> 01:04:02.404 Oh! Whoa! 01:04:02.405 --> 01:04:04.406 Stop looking at me like that, man. 01:04:04.407 --> 01:04:06.409 You're giving me the creeps. 01:04:06.909 --> 01:04:08.910 Okay, okay. 01:04:08.911 --> 01:04:09.912 Um... 01:04:10.413 --> 01:04:13.915 look, if you, um, if you talk... 01:04:13.916 --> 01:04:15.917 to the Florida Attorney General, he'll listen to you. 01:04:15.918 --> 01:04:18.421 I mean, I'm not asking for clemency. 01:04:18.921 --> 01:04:20.923 Or weekend furloughs or anything like that. 01:04:21.424 --> 01:04:23.925 Just a reasonable amount of time to go over everything, 01:04:23.926 --> 01:04:28.930 Top to bottom, to give the families closure. 01:04:28.931 --> 01:04:31.433 He'll recommend a stay, 01:04:31.434 --> 01:04:33.435 And the governor will grant it. 01:04:33.436 --> 01:04:34.437 Hey, let's get real. 01:04:34.937 --> 01:04:39.441 The governor doesn't care about you. 01:04:39.442 --> 01:04:42.944 As a police investigator, I gotta assume you're gonna die on Tuesday. 01:04:42.945 --> 01:04:45.424 You gotta start thinking about what you're gonna give law enforcement 01:04:45.448 --> 01:04:48.450 between now and Tuesday! 01:04:48.451 --> 01:04:49.952 I wanna help you. I can't! 01:04:52.455 --> 01:04:54.957 I gotta know some things about Seattle. Okay, okay, all right. 01:04:56.959 --> 01:04:57.959 Reichert. 01:04:57.960 --> 01:04:59.961 Good evening, Dave. What's up? 01:04:59.962 --> 01:05:02.965 The search results were negative on Ridgway’s house and vehicles, 01:05:03.466 --> 01:05:07.469 And our surveillance of the Strip was busted by the 11:00 news. 01:05:07.470 --> 01:05:09.971 Mm-Hmm. They can run the swab, 01:05:09.972 --> 01:05:11.974 but if they do, it'll consume the entire sample, 01:05:12.475 --> 01:05:14.477 So I told 'em to hold off and wait 01:05:14.977 --> 01:05:16.978 until we get further along with the DNA research. 01:05:16.979 --> 01:05:19.981 Yeah, that's smart. Good thinking, Dave. 01:05:19.982 --> 01:05:23.485 Yeah, yeah. How about you? You doing any good? 01:05:23.486 --> 01:05:25.488 Yeah, you know, we're getting there. 01:05:25.988 --> 01:05:29.492 Yeah, I think I do. 01:05:30.993 --> 01:05:33.495 Good hunting, Bob. 01:05:33.496 --> 01:05:35.497 Be safe, huh? 01:05:35.498 --> 01:05:38.000 Be safe. 01:05:54.517 --> 01:05:57.018 So how do you want to proceed? 01:05:57.019 --> 01:06:00.522 Well, uh... 01:06:00.523 --> 01:06:04.526 I'm sure you're aware of the limitations we're under. 01:06:04.527 --> 01:06:06.528 This is phase two of the death watch, 01:06:06.529 --> 01:06:12.034 and obviously that puts us under some kind of restraint. 01:06:12.535 --> 01:06:16.538 Talking of which, how'd it go with the Attorney General? 01:06:16.539 --> 01:06:18.540 I'm not gonna blow smoke up your ass, Ted. 01:06:18.541 --> 01:06:21.042 Hope I know for a fact there's not much 01:06:21.043 --> 01:06:23.545 he's gonna intervene in Tuesday's proceedings, 01:06:23.546 --> 01:06:27.549 unless something really changes. 01:06:27.550 --> 01:06:29.551 I've got an idea of the scope, 01:06:29.552 --> 01:06:33.054 but I'm only representing Washington here, so... 01:06:33.055 --> 01:06:35.557 let's start with Hawkins first. 01:06:35.558 --> 01:06:39.562 The facts I have are basically what's available in the newspaper. 01:06:41.063 --> 01:06:45.066 Missing from one location. 01:06:45.067 --> 01:06:46.068 Never found. 01:06:56.579 --> 01:07:00.081 Gee, this is, uh... 01:07:00.082 --> 01:07:03.586 This is probably the hardest part. Um... 01:07:05.588 --> 01:07:06.589 Yeah. 01:07:07.089 --> 01:07:09.591 I don't know. Um... 01:07:09.592 --> 01:07:12.595 Now we're gettin' right down to it. 01:07:13.095 --> 01:07:15.097 Uh, we'll talk about it. It's, um... 01:07:15.598 --> 01:07:17.599 it's just I hope you understand. 01:07:17.600 --> 01:07:21.103 It's not something I find easy to talk about after all this time. 01:07:21.604 --> 01:07:23.606 No, I understand. You take your time. 01:07:29.612 --> 01:07:33.114 What we have here is, um... 01:07:33.115 --> 01:07:37.118 is a situation where we have an individual who is, um... 01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:39.622 basically seeking to satisfy his urges. 01:07:40.122 --> 01:07:42.123 And, um, in order to do that, 01:07:42.124 --> 01:07:46.127 He has to put his subject at ease. Um... 01:07:46.128 --> 01:07:49.130 so this guy, this entity, he, um... 01:07:49.131 --> 01:07:52.134 he puts her at ease. He jokes. 01:07:52.635 --> 01:07:54.637 He makes her laugh. 01:07:57.640 --> 01:08:00.643 Whoa! Take my advice. Don't ever sprain an ankle. 01:08:03.145 --> 01:08:05.146 Shit. 01:08:05.147 --> 01:08:06.649 Want some help with that? 01:08:07.149 --> 01:08:11.153 Oh, would you? That would be great. 01:08:11.654 --> 01:08:13.655 Thanks. 01:08:13.656 --> 01:08:17.659 You have no idea how tired I am of dropping that. 01:08:17.660 --> 01:08:20.662 I feel like such a klutz. 01:08:20.663 --> 01:08:23.165 My car is right over here. 01:08:26.168 --> 01:08:29.170 My name's Georgeanne, but they call me George. 01:08:29.171 --> 01:08:30.673 George. Wow. 01:08:31.173 --> 01:08:34.676 That is such a cute name. And it suits you, too. 01:08:34.677 --> 01:08:38.179 'Cause the entity is young. He's handsome. 01:08:38.180 --> 01:08:40.181 He's not at all threatening. 01:08:40.182 --> 01:08:43.685 And he has a V.W., needs room for his crutches. 01:08:43.686 --> 01:08:45.687 Yeah, and, um... 01:08:45.688 --> 01:08:49.691 he has her now. His control is almost complete. 01:08:49.692 --> 01:08:51.693 So he's her prince. 01:08:51.694 --> 01:08:54.696 No, no, no. He's her savior. 01:08:54.697 --> 01:08:57.198 And she's his... 01:08:57.199 --> 01:08:59.201 till she turns bad. 01:08:59.702 --> 01:09:01.704 Tell me, what would you do, Bob? 01:09:03.205 --> 01:09:07.208 Hmm? What would you do to her? 01:09:07.209 --> 01:09:10.211 To her breasts, hmm? 01:09:10.212 --> 01:09:11.714 And after her breasts, 01:09:12.214 --> 01:09:18.219 When you got down there to the holy of holies? 01:09:18.220 --> 01:09:20.222 When did he fracture her skull? 01:09:23.726 --> 01:09:24.726 Huh? 01:09:24.727 --> 01:09:28.730 Her skull was fractured. When did he do it? 01:09:28.731 --> 01:09:30.732 'Cause he couldn't let her just talk there in the car. 01:09:30.733 --> 01:09:34.236 That would've made her too familiar, wouldn't it? 01:09:35.738 --> 01:09:37.739 So when did you fracture her skull? 01:09:37.740 --> 01:09:40.242 You mean the entity. 01:09:44.747 --> 01:09:46.247 Truth, Ted. 01:09:46.248 --> 01:09:48.250 I've been giving you the truth, Bob. 01:09:48.751 --> 01:09:50.752 Now it's time for you to talk about it. What, to you? 01:09:50.753 --> 01:09:52.253 Well, somebody who understands. 01:09:52.254 --> 01:09:56.257 Oh, you understand. That's a laugh. 01:09:56.258 --> 01:09:57.760 What do you understand? 01:09:59.762 --> 01:10:02.764 Did you have three family names, huh? 01:10:02.765 --> 01:10:04.265 Were you illegitimate? 01:10:04.266 --> 01:10:06.268 Were you called mommy's little brother? 01:10:08.771 --> 01:10:11.773 Yeah. It hurts. 01:10:11.774 --> 01:10:14.275 And hurt turns into rage. 01:10:14.276 --> 01:10:18.279 And the rage grows and grows. 01:10:18.280 --> 01:10:21.282 But you can't let it out because he's gotta be mommy's good little brother, 01:10:21.283 --> 01:10:24.286 or he'll get sent to grandpa's. 01:10:24.787 --> 01:10:28.791 So he tries, but... he gets sent anyway. 01:10:31.293 --> 01:10:35.296 But it's okay, it's okay. Grandpa doesn't beat on him. 01:10:35.297 --> 01:10:39.300 He just locks him in the closet and turns out the light. 01:10:39.301 --> 01:10:41.302 I'm sorry. 01:10:41.303 --> 01:10:42.804 Oh, that's good. 01:10:42.805 --> 01:10:45.807 I'm on death row, and you're sympathetic. 01:10:45.808 --> 01:10:47.810 Bob. That's a lot of help, 01:10:54.316 --> 01:10:58.821 do you have any idea what hell is? 01:11:00.322 --> 01:11:01.824 No. 01:11:02.324 --> 01:11:04.325 No. 01:11:04.326 --> 01:11:06.327 You grow numb. 01:11:06.328 --> 01:11:08.830 You lose the ability to feel 01:11:08.831 --> 01:11:12.834 because the hurt and helplessness is too big for you to deal with. 01:11:12.835 --> 01:11:15.595 You learn to mimic feelings so people will think you're just like 'em, 01:11:15.838 --> 01:11:16.839 but you're not. 01:11:17.339 --> 01:11:19.841 You look for ways to... 01:11:19.842 --> 01:11:22.343 to get stronger and stronger with that feeling 01:11:22.344 --> 01:11:26.848 to feel human, you know? 01:11:26.849 --> 01:11:30.852 Then you get into porn, soft-core at first, then the hard stuff. 01:11:30.853 --> 01:11:34.856 And the fantasies grow, and they get stronger and stronger... 01:11:34.857 --> 01:11:37.358 till you can't sleep. 01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:39.861 And you walk around, looking into windows, 01:11:39.862 --> 01:11:42.364 hunting for that feeling. 01:11:45.367 --> 01:11:47.368 You say to yourself it's just a game, it's harmless, 01:11:47.369 --> 01:11:50.371 you'll never really do it. 01:11:50.372 --> 01:11:53.374 Then one day... 01:11:53.375 --> 01:11:56.879 one day... it's not enough. 01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:21.904 Next day you're sick, horrified at what you've done. 01:12:22.404 --> 01:12:25.908 But excited, too, because you felt, for the first time. 01:12:27.409 --> 01:12:30.912 You tell yourself it's gonna stop, and... 01:12:30.913 --> 01:12:34.415 For a little while, it does. 01:12:34.416 --> 01:12:37.920 What really happened with Georgeanne? 01:12:41.423 --> 01:12:44.425 You mean what did the entity do. 01:12:44.426 --> 01:12:45.927 No. 01:12:45.928 --> 01:12:47.429 No. 01:12:50.432 --> 01:12:51.934 Not the entity. You. 01:12:53.435 --> 01:12:56.939 'Cause you didn't talk her into the front seat, did you? 01:12:57.940 --> 01:13:00.942 Let's... Let's just go through it... 01:13:00.943 --> 01:13:02.945 step by step. 01:13:04.446 --> 01:13:06.948 What happened? 01:13:06.949 --> 01:13:09.451 Okay, what really happened? 01:13:23.465 --> 01:13:26.969 You gotta tell me what happened, Ted. 01:13:28.971 --> 01:13:30.973 How was she taken? 01:13:32.975 --> 01:13:36.979 The time and the events. What were the circumstances at the time? 01:14:02.004 --> 01:14:04.006 The time... 01:14:05.507 --> 01:14:10.512 I think it was May or, or June. 01:14:12.514 --> 01:14:14.516 It was a clear night. 01:14:15.517 --> 01:14:16.518 Warm. 01:14:25.027 --> 01:14:29.031 She was... at the end of the alley. 01:15:00.062 --> 01:15:01.563 Oh! Ohh! 01:15:02.064 --> 01:15:03.564 Want some help? 01:15:03.565 --> 01:15:05.567 Oh, sure. 01:15:06.068 --> 01:15:07.069 Please. 01:15:07.569 --> 01:15:08.569 Thanks. 01:15:08.570 --> 01:15:10.572 It's a really big help. 01:15:16.078 --> 01:15:18.580 My car's right over here. 01:15:22.584 --> 01:15:23.585 They call me George. 01:15:24.086 --> 01:15:26.587 Ted. Hi. I'm... My name's 01:15:26.588 --> 01:15:30.092 I usually find a parking spot close to the library, but it's so crowded. 01:15:30.592 --> 01:15:32.093 I guess people are booking it for finals. 01:15:32.094 --> 01:15:35.096 Yeah, I was just there. I think the whole of US there tonight. 01:15:35.097 --> 01:15:36.597 Sure looked like it. 01:15:36.598 --> 01:15:38.600 Well, here we are. 01:15:43.605 --> 01:15:44.605 Thank you. 01:15:44.606 --> 01:15:46.108 You've been a big help. 01:15:46.608 --> 01:15:48.609 Oh, that's okay. 01:15:48.610 --> 01:15:51.113 Oh, gosh. I'll get that for you. 01:16:34.656 --> 01:16:35.657 I have trouble. 01:16:38.660 --> 01:16:41.162 I have trouble with... 01:16:41.163 --> 01:16:43.165 Pronunc... 01:16:43.665 --> 01:16:45.666 Pronunciation. 01:16:45.667 --> 01:16:48.669 I listen to tapes. Shut up. 01:16:48.670 --> 01:16:49.670 Okay? Just shut up. 01:16:49.671 --> 01:16:51.173 Tapes. 01:17:02.684 --> 01:17:05.186 Please. Just shut up, okay? 01:17:05.187 --> 01:17:07.188 Shut up. 01:17:07.189 --> 01:17:09.691 I need a tutor. 01:17:12.694 --> 01:17:15.696 I have trouble, but you can help me with that. 01:17:15.697 --> 01:17:17.199 That's why I hired you. 01:17:56.738 --> 01:17:58.740 Shut up, shut up, shut up! 01:20:01.863 --> 01:20:03.023 You know, it's kinda funny... 01:20:03.365 --> 01:20:06.367 Well, not funny, but... 01:20:06.368 --> 01:20:10.372 odd, the kind of things people say under those circumstances. 01:20:15.877 --> 01:20:17.878 She said, um... 01:20:17.879 --> 01:20:20.381 she thought she had a Spanish test the next day, 01:20:20.382 --> 01:20:22.383 and that, uh... 01:20:22.384 --> 01:20:24.885 she thought that I had taken her. 01:20:24.886 --> 01:20:28.390 To help tutor her with her test. 01:20:31.393 --> 01:20:32.894 It's kinda odd. 01:20:44.406 --> 01:20:46.908 Odd thing to say. 01:20:53.415 --> 01:20:54.916 Anyway... 01:20:59.421 --> 01:21:01.923 I'm feeling kinda tired. 01:21:02.924 --> 01:21:04.425 Can I be alone now? 01:21:04.426 --> 01:21:05.927 What did you do to her, Ted? 01:21:06.428 --> 01:21:06.928 Nothing. 01:21:07.429 --> 01:21:09.931 I was scared. I panicked. 01:21:10.432 --> 01:21:13.435 I drove away. I threw things out of the window. 01:21:13.935 --> 01:21:16.437 The tire iron, the rope. Clothes. 01:21:16.438 --> 01:21:19.440 Her clothes. Sure. 01:21:19.441 --> 01:21:20.941 I didn't want to, um... 01:21:20.942 --> 01:21:23.444 You took her clothes off. You stayed with her. 01:21:23.445 --> 01:21:24.945 All night. So what did you do to her? 01:21:24.946 --> 01:21:26.948 Nothing. Nothing. 01:21:27.449 --> 01:21:31.452 Look... I don't wanna talk about this right now. 01:21:31.453 --> 01:21:33.954 Ted... 01:21:33.955 --> 01:21:37.958 you stripped her down, and you had sex with the corpse. 01:21:37.959 --> 01:21:40.461 Why? No, no, I never said that. 01:21:40.462 --> 01:21:42.464 Why'd you remove the head? What? 01:21:42.964 --> 01:21:45.466 'Cause we found her head. We never found her body. What happened? 01:21:45.467 --> 01:21:47.969 I don't wanna talk about this. 01:21:48.470 --> 01:21:52.474 Ted, you cut off her head with a hacksaw, and then... 01:21:52.974 --> 01:21:55.476 Then you moved it to a different place. 01:21:55.477 --> 01:21:56.977 You took it back to your apartment. 01:21:56.978 --> 01:21:58.979 What is your problem, Bob? 01:21:58.980 --> 01:22:01.482 You deaf? 01:22:01.483 --> 01:22:05.986 I said... I don't wanna talk about it. 01:22:05.987 --> 01:22:07.988 We found four skulls on Taylor Mountain. 01:22:07.989 --> 01:22:09.990 They'd all decomposed at the same rate 01:22:09.991 --> 01:22:11.492 'cause you kept 'em in your apartment 01:22:11.493 --> 01:22:13.994 and then you dumped 'em at the same time. 01:22:13.995 --> 01:22:16.998 So why'd you keep 'em? 01:22:23.004 --> 01:22:27.008 It's because the corpse is just as important as live prey. 01:22:28.510 --> 01:22:29.510 Isn't it? 01:22:31.012 --> 01:22:32.513 It's... 01:22:32.514 --> 01:22:34.515 complete control. 01:22:34.516 --> 01:22:37.018 It's possession. 01:22:37.519 --> 01:22:40.021 So tell me how it's possession. 01:22:41.022 --> 01:22:44.024 You feel the... 01:22:44.025 --> 01:22:47.028 the last bit of breath leaving their body. 01:22:48.530 --> 01:22:52.032 You're looking into their eyes, and... 01:22:52.033 --> 01:22:56.036 basically a person in that situation... 01:22:56.037 --> 01:22:58.540 is a God. 01:23:00.041 --> 01:23:02.543 You possess them... 01:23:02.544 --> 01:23:06.046 and they shall forever be a part of you. 01:23:06.047 --> 01:23:11.051 And the grounds where you kill 'em or left 'em 01:23:11.052 --> 01:23:13.555 becomes sacred to you. 01:23:14.055 --> 01:23:16.056 And you will always return to them. 01:23:16.057 --> 01:23:21.061 So when you go back, what do you see? 01:23:21.062 --> 01:23:23.063 Her skin. 01:23:23.064 --> 01:23:25.566 You admire that... 01:23:25.567 --> 01:23:29.570 'cause it changes color... 01:23:29.571 --> 01:23:32.073 From yellow to blue, then purple, 01:23:32.574 --> 01:23:36.077 While their fingernails had turned black. 01:23:37.579 --> 01:23:40.581 Arousing, isn't it? 01:23:40.582 --> 01:23:44.085 And it makes you want to interact with the body. 01:23:44.586 --> 01:23:46.086 You had sex with the corpse. 01:23:46.087 --> 01:23:48.089 No, no, no, I never said that. 01:23:48.590 --> 01:23:50.090 What'd you keep the heads for? 01:23:50.091 --> 01:23:52.593 What? What are you talking about? 01:23:52.594 --> 01:23:54.595 You had to keep 'em for a reason. 01:23:54.596 --> 01:23:57.097 I-I-I... what for? 01:23:57.098 --> 01:24:01.101 T-T-To remind me of my power, okay? 01:24:01.102 --> 01:24:03.604 And how do you do that? 01:24:03.605 --> 01:24:05.105 By beating off to them. 01:24:05.106 --> 01:24:07.108 Beating off to the skulls. 01:24:07.609 --> 01:24:09.610 Okay? 01:24:09.611 --> 01:24:11.612 Is that what you wanted to hear? 01:24:11.613 --> 01:24:14.615 So you can see what kind of a freak I am? 01:24:14.616 --> 01:24:16.618 Go ahead. Tell me. 01:24:17.118 --> 01:24:18.620 Tell me! 01:24:45.146 --> 01:24:49.149 Bundy talked for four days straight. 01:24:49.150 --> 01:24:54.655 In the end, he confessed to the unsolved murders of the eight Seattle women, 01:24:54.656 --> 01:25:00.160 including three more in Washington that weren't on our books, 01:25:00.161 --> 01:25:04.665 plus another 19 in Utah, Colorado, 01:25:04.666 --> 01:25:11.171 Florida, Oregon, Idaho and California, 01:25:11.172 --> 01:25:15.676 bringing the total to 30 in all. 01:25:15.677 --> 01:25:18.178 Why are you going? 01:25:18.179 --> 01:25:21.682 Hey, Bob, I still have more to tell you. 01:25:21.683 --> 01:25:24.184 Please, Bob. 01:25:24.185 --> 01:25:26.187 You're a hunter just like me. 01:25:26.688 --> 01:25:28.188 We're the same! 01:25:28.189 --> 01:25:31.693 I'm you, you're me! Admit it! 01:25:33.194 --> 01:25:36.196 I still matter, Keppel! 01:25:36.197 --> 01:25:38.700 I still matter! 01:25:41.202 --> 01:25:43.203 Bundy talked. 01:25:43.204 --> 01:25:47.709 He talked to show himself that he was still important. 01:25:49.210 --> 01:25:50.712 Still in control. 01:25:51.713 --> 01:25:53.214 But he wasn't. 01:26:00.221 --> 01:26:02.222 I knew these weren't the answers that the families had hoped for, 01:26:02.223 --> 01:26:07.228 But on a certain level, we were grateful that we knew. 01:26:09.230 --> 01:26:10.732 Two days after our final interview, 01:26:11.232 --> 01:26:15.736 Theodore Robert Bundy was electrocuted as scheduled at 7:00 in the morning. 01:26:15.737 --> 01:26:21.242 A murderer who couldn't even control his tears at the end. 01:26:23.745 --> 01:26:27.248 Sande understood the price I was paying for my work with serials. 01:26:28.750 --> 01:26:30.752 And it cost her, too. 01:26:35.757 --> 01:26:37.758 Downing was promoted to Captain 01:26:37.759 --> 01:26:39.760 and cut back the task force. 01:26:39.761 --> 01:26:45.265 Dave Reichert stayed with it till he had to move on. 01:26:45.266 --> 01:26:47.768 But he never forgot, 01:26:47.769 --> 01:26:52.773 And he made sure no one else ever forgot. 01:26:52.774 --> 01:26:55.275 Years later, the sample taken from the cotton swab. 01:26:55.276 --> 01:26:57.778 Was analyzed using new DNA technology. 01:26:57.779 --> 01:27:00.782 And led to the capture of the Green River killer. 01:27:01.282 --> 01:27:03.784 Gary Leon Ridgway was arrested and charged 01:27:03.785 --> 01:27:06.787 with the murders of Mills, Chapman and Hinds, 01:27:06.788 --> 01:27:10.290 and later confessed to 57 more killings, 01:27:10.291 --> 01:27:12.292 the greatest number of victims of any serial killer 01:27:12.293 --> 01:27:15.295 in the history of the United States. 01:27:15.296 --> 01:27:19.299 I, uh, I killed so many women, 01:27:19.300 --> 01:27:22.803 I have a hard time keeping 'em straight. 01:27:22.804 --> 01:27:28.809 I placed most of the bodies in groups I called "clusters,". 01:27:28.810 --> 01:27:32.313 And I liked to drive by the clusters 01:27:32.814 --> 01:27:36.817 and think about the women that I placed there. 01:27:36.818 --> 01:27:40.821 I thought I was doing you guys a favor... 01:27:40.822 --> 01:27:44.324 killing... killing prostitutes 01:27:44.325 --> 01:27:49.329 because here you can't control 'em, 01:27:49.330 --> 01:27:52.332 and I can. 01:27:52.333 --> 01:27:55.335 I, uh, had the answer. 01:27:55.336 --> 01:27:59.339 If... If I went and, and raped somebody, 01:27:59.340 --> 01:28:04.344 That is not... that is not what I would do. No. 01:28:04.345 --> 01:28:10.852 They are low on my category of people. 01:28:11.352 --> 01:28:14.355 I'm not a rapist, no. I'm a murderer. 01:28:16.357 --> 01:28:21.361 I'm sorry for doing it, 01:28:21.362 --> 01:28:24.865 But I wasn't, uh... 01:28:24.866 --> 01:28:27.869 I wasn't killing a person.